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One of the principal rules AND one of the most massive differences between hunting and field trialing is the fact that, at a trial, there is a DEFINED course that the handler must follow. You cannot follow the dog, as you often should when you are hunting. You have to follow the predetermined, pres...

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Polmaise - Thanks - thats a good and reasonable option/answer to my simple question about deer chasing. Clarity is almost always a better start than emotion when you are dealing with a beginner :wink: :D Yea , Those that take that route require loads of script to get their head round it ? > or is i...

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I enjoy the peace and quiet of being out with a bird dog. As I have finally matured a little I have learned that from me trainer wise less is often more. I try more and more to bite my tongue and as one of the wisest old trainers once told me “hush son, let the dog do what you brought him to do.” Y...

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It would be an excellent result if the OP or any poster asking advice ,put in practice the advice given by excellent posts and a result from them were shown to have been beneficial . That would be Great. Half a chance Polmaise! :wink: It can be discouraging .The averages are not good . :mrgreen: :r...

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Don't Shoot the messenger. Just for curiosity ...where was the dog housed for the last 8 months before you get it ? ..Different state like Florida to Chicago in a day , or what ? ..In December . That aside ...no matter ...It is not Cold ambient temperature that is any problem with any breed (includi...

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It would be an excellent result if the OP or any poster asking advice ,put in practice the advice given by excellent posts and a result from them were shown to have been beneficial . That would be Great.

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You got my message then .

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That comes across as contradictory 'Bobman' .
If your dogs know that you will if they don't obey .
I thought you first said "You want the pup to think that the deer shot lightning out of them"

polmaise

Good analogy Sharon , especially for the 'pupster' .. Poster. ............. The kennel or cage , or even residence for some is an experience of being caged or pleasure ,how you convey that is dependant on how the one entering it perceives it present or past . and ain't no clicker in the world can do...

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Sharon wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:49 pm
Good grief! Looks like I provoked you into a really good answer.

Yup !
".Why not get in the kennel first and the dog will follow ? (I say) . But that is not enough for the Clicker trainer ! "

polmaise

Thanks folks. I was taken into hospital with pneumonia but during CT scanning, dark areas on my lungs and a tumour in one of them was discovered. It doesn't look good but I am hoping for the best. Bill T. I have put my spade back in the shed ! :lol: If you are buried at Sea ,don't have me as a frie...

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Sharon , I am sure there is a more accurate response available for clicker training ? ..Why not get in the kennel first and the dog will follow ? (I say) . But that is not enough for the Clicker trainer ! Try this ? :) ‘Come’ is no harder to train than any other behaviour but in real life it has a h...

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Robert - Not kidding here. Yes it is a game and yes it can be pretty phony sometimes, but a bird dog is a bird dog and the best of them will, like the proverbial cream...rise to the top. Can't disagree with that . I have to say that a dog that is raised and trained on throw down birds will have an ...

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Does the game that is being hunted over there have ears ? Actually, in some cases the answer is"not really". Many trials, especially in populated areas, these days are conducted on game farm raised birds which are typically thrown into cover, more or less along the "line of march" of the trial. The...

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Does the game that is being hunted over there have ears ?

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Hello Again - My 5 month old setter pup chased a deer this afternoon. He has been wearing his unarmed e collar into the field for a while, but he has not been introduced to any electricity yet - I was going to wait till the oft recommended 6 month point. Should I stay the 6 month course before grad...

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Does the Garmin 550 have a common sense button ?

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Some transatlantic friends may already be aware ,but I thought the rest may want to know ? This cantankerous old git is not too well ......well I am not surprised , he must be about 150 years old ! I have known him for too long ,that he makes me feel old! He posted this recently on another channel (...

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The best way (imo) is to Free run , they can go as fast as they are capable of going .... Or want to . Probably my military background taught me that it is good to be fit and get fit, but you have to a job when you get there and be physically able to do it ..Not exhausted ....you loose .. lol https:...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tapZWekS1o8

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My mind cast back for a minute to our friend with the dog hunting too fast

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Sharon wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:12 pm
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I'm sorry that happened. It's always something with dogs isn't it? :roll:

Yup! ,let me save that one for future

polmaise

Maybe next year ? Such is life with Competitions and dogs .A little luck now and then helps. I received this message from his new owners in the states which is always good to hear. " Ted competed in the Open National. We’ve been working on his Open Champion title. In the first series he had a bird s...

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He never made it passed the 2nd series today at Kansas. Still he will always be in my Hall of fame and this painting from a picture by a friend will always hang on my wall from one of the many days we had in the shooting field together. Great dog to have the pleasure of training for his first 2 yea...

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Be interested to hear how the British do it as they can't use an e collar. Come on Polmaise , give me a decent post. :) Always difficult,because each one is from a different level of understanding. ,The pup however is always in the same place every time :wink: . Hide and seek ! Let the pup worry ab...

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1. Walk backwards.
2. I really think you should invest in seeing a Trainer 1 on 1.

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As detailed in another post, we have recently purchased a 5 month old setter puppy. She has been started on birds (is pointing but not holding on the flush and used to training blanks). I would like to continue her on live birds. My goal is to make the training sessions fun, just have her point and...

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NEhomer wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:33 pm

polmaise wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:04 pm
Ted 7.jpg
I can't imagine a scarier look for any game bird than that!

Congrats and thanks for sharing~

Depends how close you want to see it ,if you are a game bird.

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He never made it passed the 2nd series today at Kansas. Still he will always be in my Hall of fame and this painting from a picture by a friend will always hang on my wall from one of the many days we had in the shooting field together. Great dog to have the pleasure of training for his first 2 year...

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What are you gentlemen talking about? :) We just 'gerund' now and then ..with often loquacious response. .. Learned friends forget ,in latter years ..what they said or done or even advocated in the past . ..That makes them either learned ,or forgetful... Much like the dog Hunting Too fast . Or the ...

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Pretty sure , "Stravaiging" in my language is 'doing it's own thing without knowing where it is going, or care for what sent it or gave it in the first place,as long as it is going somewhere, even if it stops for a while to check out the scenery' .......some call this "Hunting" ? . I'm of a differen...

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It would be rude to quote what has been said by others regarding 'Planted birds' and human scent .
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Least Not, ..Hunting Fast'?? ..Or as we Heathens sitting in a cave watching a spider ...call it "Stravaiging" .

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DonF wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:01 am

I strongly suspect what you did was teach the dog the difference between a training bird and a wild bird.

Probably .

polmaise

I was merely asking if the Caged bird would have human scent on it . Which would and obviously does have a bearing in the case/situation with the OP's dilemma as he stated "Planted a Ton of birds" .

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Trekmoor wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:34 am

I'd be interested to know if your dog would remain on point to a caged bird or if it would point then creep in ?

Bill T.

Would the caged bird have human scent on it ?, which , if I remember the OP had started with planted birds and the wheels fell off on wild ones ?

polmaise

National Open Championship Kansas.2019 .
Give the lad a cheer ..Win or lose. He made it where many that side of the pond have never been. "Over here"

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Best of luck

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step by step

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It's not really a Brag ,so it doesn't belong in that section ,and It's not really Training ,and It's not really anything ,other than General chat ... A journey of a Gundog. Many have not travelled as far ? (But I am proud of him) (and he was Trained) (and He is doing well). So many Journeys are post...

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FYI Polmaise.

Don't quote someone and then stick your comment in their post. Just quote the post and then comment. Thank you.
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DANG! I wish I was clever when oil and water mix on the phone screen.

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You are an odd duck Polmaise. I make no claims to understanding you, your posts or your motives most of the time. (Cheers Buddy. :wink: ) The dog made a 100 yard retrieve on that GWT and delivered it to hand. Trained via the methods in the DVD I recommended. The dog's joy in delivering the bird is ...

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whilst one would like to debate semantics ..not!
It is so frequent that the details are applauded.
Nice Hold .....
A paint roller doesn't have the same picture , but it does ...and That is great

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averageguy wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:37 pm
Photo from this morning. Hence the title "Perfect Retrieve"

Neither the dog or the duck looked wet .
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Cool pic of hold though.

polmaise

I've have a 17mnth old GSP and he's whoa broke,steady to shot and collared conditioned at this point but is seriously lacks in retrieving. Sometimes he’ll do a full retrieve, sometimes he won’t pick the bird up at all and other times he’ll do a ¾ retrieve. .......... Hindsight is 20/20, I know I ov...

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powbass@gmail.com wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:50 am
When is a GWP considered full grown,

Physically , Mentally ..Or both ?
They often don't coincide .
When it stops growing in height it is fully grown,mind you some keep feeding them stuff and it has only one way to grow further.

polmaise

Cute as can be .....
My 6 week old pup seen a baby rabbit for the first time ..and the baby rabbit seen a dog for the first time .
They were both curious ..as long as none of them moved.

polmaise

Robert , I've never been very sure of what the "whoa" command is supposed to accomplish ? I don't use it or have one ….unless it serves the same purpose as a "stop whistle ?" I do use that during some retrieves or if a dog is starting to chase sheep or deer or rabbits but never to keep a dog steady...

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I have never needed to train F.F. to any member of any of the gundog breeds. It is possible to work with whatever a pup shows me it has got in the way of a "retrieve instinct" in order to first boost that instinct and then do all the fancy stuff with it like steadiness, deliveries and directional t...

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I reckon you should remove all notion or mention or even thought that FF is anything to do with Retrieving whether it is in the spring,fall or any other season.

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