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rinker

[quoteI was one that thought an ecollar was not a very important tool untill I learned how to use it][/quote]

A barrel is just a training tool like an ecollar. I use a barrel and it works for me, but every one should do what works for them and what they are comfortabel with.

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When the pup picks up the dummy and starts to return to you, walk in the opposite direction, maybe even jog a few steps. Make the pup chase you.

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To teach whoa I would rather use a barrel. I set the barrel upright and I can control how steady it is with my legs. I would rather use a table for force fetch.

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To go with me.

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Two instructors got ahold of me and taught me to quit b*****n' and deal with it. I think you might need another lesson. My son is just now finishing his junior year in a public high school. I think his educational experience so far has been great. He has a 4.0 grade point average and up until this ...

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The pup will survive and so will you.

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Find a professional trainer, or a serious amateur that has several dogs. Contact them and offer to help them work dogs. Do whatever they need in exchange for watching them work dogs.

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I use an ecollar around the flank, but I also use a Buddy stick. I can use the stick to keep the dog from moving. This really helps the first few times on the ground and then I start using it less and less.

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How many dogs are you taking? How are you going to haul them?

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I have used self feeders off and on over the years and some dogs do great with them and some don't. I have noticed that often when a dog is first put on a self feeder he will gain weight right away but over time he will regulate what he eats and maintain a normal weight.

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Put the collar on the dog and the transmitter on the shelf. This will make a positive association with the collar . In the dogs mind the collar should mean its time to train not its time to get corrected

I agree completely with this.

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Tritronics with 6 levels. When in the yard I generally use a 3 on the neck and 2 on the flank. When we go to the field with distractions I usually need to turn it up to 4 on the neck and 3 on the flank.

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Kennel pictures continued.

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My kennel consists of three pens that are 35' wide and 105' deep.

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You will save yourself, and your dog, an enormous amount of frustration if you find an experienced trainer to help you get started. Have you checked to see if there are any clubs in your area?

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One per day, maximum. I just counted and I have had 10 so far today.

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I am starting to get several posts per day from Gun Dog Forum on my Facebook page. Excessive posting is the fastest way to get 'unliked/unfriended' on my facebook page. I assume that I am not the only one this is happening to.

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Rinker, do you have any photos of your setup?

I will take a few pictures and post them in the next few days.

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I have three pens that are each 35' wide and 105' deep. I keep two or three dogs in each one. There is little to no clean up. I really like this set up, the dogs have plenty of room to run and play. I am not really a breeder but I do have an occasional litter of puppies. I tattoo all puppies inside ...

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Mr Miller would strongly disagree

Are you referring to Ferrel Miller? Did he use the wing in some way? I would be interested in hearing more.

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I would be fine with a gently used gun, but I need to find two of them.

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I was originally thinking O/U, but all of the ones that I like seem to be a little out of my price range. I am looking at the Benelli Montefeltro, which seems to run about $1,200. I think that I may be able to negotiate a little since I am buying two of them.

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My son started shooting skeet when he was about 9 years old. I bought him a youth model 20 gauge at that time. I told him that when he had quit growing that I would buy matching 12 gauges for him and me. He is now 17 and has outgrown his youth model. My career has changed a little in the last 8 year...

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I have a TT 500, but if I was buying another one I would get the 100. I do not use the momentary stimulation, and I occasionally bump the switch to momentary without realizing it.

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I have zero first hand knowledge of Smarty Smith, but if he made Harold Ray's team he is a good one.

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I have always thought that I I was flying the birds out on a regular basis that they would find their own grit, usually in my driveway. Is this correct?

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I would say that in general that is true, but there are certainly big running shorthairs and close working english pointers.

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I have sold a couple of dozen started dogs, and my name isn't 'out there'. I have also sold a couple of dozen litters of puppies. From a monetary stand point I am certain that I am six digits in the hole. I will continue to raise a few puppies and I will sell some puppies and give away some puppies ...

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I have bigger running english pointers, but here is the way that I get them to handle at a young age. I run them in areas that they are not likely to find birds. I carry a sack of pigeons with me and I wait for the pup to get out about as far as I want him to go. I then call the pup and when I get h...

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There is an old joke about getting married, that essentially says you could save a lot of trouble by just picking a random person and giving them half of your stuff. Based upon my experience with selling started dogs, you could save yourself a lot of time and effort by just giving away $1,000, or so.

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I have bird dogs and I have chickens, and I keep them seperated. Some of the dogs get used to the chickens and ignore them eventually, some do not. I wouldn't worry about breaking the dog off of chickens unless you hunt around farms that have them.

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Ignore it completely and keep training. The only change needed is to make sure that you keep her away from male dogs.

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Non-neutered does not automatically equal agressive. I haven't kept count but I imagine that I have owned well over 100 bird dogs over the years, and I have never owned one that was spayed or neutered. A small percentage of them have been agressive towards other dogs, they got over it quickly or fou...

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I use an electric collar. I didn't know what I was doing when I started but I have learned a lot over the years. I actually think that the collar makes it easier on the dog. An ecollar can be used in an abusive way but so can a prong collar, or a rope, or your hands. The vast majority of the stimula...

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This could be a joke, but I am going to respond as if it is not. 'Bird dogs' are generally used to locate 'ground dwelling' birds. I think that parrots are usually found up in the tree tops. I don't think that a bird dog is going to help you.

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I had a female pointer several years ago that was an escape artist. I bred her and about a week before her pups were due I moved her to a different kennel that I used for raising puppies. The fence in this kennel was about five foot high and did not have a roof of any kind. I knew under normal circu...

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Longwinger, can you please elaborate on your statement above about training birds in one direction. I am currently building a loft and I have arranged to purchase young birds from a pigeon racer not too far away. I have two places that I normally train, one is five miles away and one is about twenty...

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I have never raised a gun shy dog at my house and like the poster above I have never done any thing special to introduce the gun. I have bought a couple of older dogs that turned out to be gun shy. I think that I know the reason for this. I live in the country and neighbors around me occasionally fi...

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There is a learning curve with pigeons. They will often do things that you do not expect. You will feel pretty stupid when you tie some kind of weight, hose or card, to their leg and then watch them fly off over the horizon with the hose or card still hanging from their leg. I felt stupid when I did...

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I don't know if I am successful enough to comment or not. The weather has some bearing on my schedule as well as the age of the puppy. I usually try to get a puppy whelped as close to January as possible. That first spring and summer are spent getting the puppy to go with me and hunt to the front. I...

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I like dogs as much as any body and a lot more than most people, but I do not lose sight of the fact that they are dogs. I keep my dogs out side and I actually think they like it that way. I have three pens that are 35' wide and 100' feet deep, the dogs have room to run around, play, dig, and just d...

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I have raised approximately 50 litters of pups over the years. In every litter of puppies there will be a range of sizes just like in every human family. I am a lot taller than my brother for example. Some times the puppy that is small early will catch up in size or even be bigger than his litter ma...

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I will chime in with a loading story. My first bird dog was a big athletic English Pointer, he was really way too much dog for me at the time. The one lesson that I did a very good job teaching him was to load in the truck. I drove a Chevy S10 at the time, and if you told him to load when he happene...

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Vman, you should ask for your money back.

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I have dealt with Pine Hill Kennels and I think that Gary is a good straight shooting guy that stands behind the puppies that he produces.

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I have kept feral pigeons on and off for years, and I always fed them cheap chicken feed. I am in the process of building a loft and I will be buying some homing pigeons in the next few weeks. I would also like to hear what most of you feed pigeons, how do you supply grit to the pigeons.

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I want to give a plug to the Indiana gun Club. I spoke to them and they said that they will ship it for me for just the cost of the packing material and actual postage.

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Any suggestions as to how to pack it. I do not have the original box. Would you put it in a hard case and then put the case in a box?

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I have a shotgun that I need to send to the manufacturer for some work. I stopped by the local ups/fedex store and they told me that they could not do it. How do I mail a shotgun?

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Just from memory I think that I have seen a range from 57 to 68 days. I have seen more early litters than late ones.

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