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Once pup has had all of his shots, take him everywhere, Petsmart, fields, playgrounds with kids, walks in the neighborhood, running on his own, running with older dogs. Let the kids play with him, if you don't have kids, hire some. Once he is getting independent and bold introduce loose released pen...

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Same ole argument that's gone on since trials began. Everyone believes how they use their own dogs and where they hunt is good for everyone else. I've hunted my trial dogs on wild quail in west Texas on foot and out of Rangers, Mules, and all types of 4 wheelers. It's a blast and the dogs have never...

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Anything a dog can crunch is a bad idea IMHO. Watch most dogs with a tennis ball and they love to adjust, crunch, adjust, crunch, leads to the same thing in birds. I have always used small paint rollers for puppies, then on to small then large bumpers. Why create an issue you may have to fix later? ...

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Maybe I missed something, but you say the trainer used pigeons and she was perfect when you picked her up. Did the trainer stop at pigeons? Did the trainer, get the dog steady to shot on pigeons, then move to pen quail? You have inadvertently skipped a bunch of steps-steady in the yard on pigeons, s...

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I am betting you haven't been systematically putting him on game birds but letting him run free. Where it's great to let dogs learn to hunt, if there's nothing but mice and "bleep" birds to find he'll become an excellent mouser. He needs to be worked on game birds, ignored when he points anything el...

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IMHO never whoa a dog unless forced into it. Meaning, if you are at a trial, dog is jumpy, green, etc. and you feel it is better to whoa him that to have him bumrush the birds, then whoa him. Better to take care of this in a training situation that in competition. Looks amateurish. Train the dog, wh...

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First time I ever agreed with Ezzy. Personally, I have always introduced killing birds differently and in a different order than seems to be what is being recommended. I have always let pups point, hold as long as they will naturally, bump, chase, etc. Most of these encounters are on wild quail or g...

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I certainly misspoke when I inadvertently said there were no brits who could complete in GSP gun dog stakes. So, I will be clear in my opinion since my opinion seems to worry you Neil, 99% of the so called all age brits I have seen in 15 years of trialing, couldn't compete. Meaning, wouldn't win on ...

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Sorry Neil, YOU ARE RIGHT!! OK, I'll stand by it then, most all age brits couldn't compete in most GSP gun dog stakes!! Well, now that I am a retired trialer, I'll have to go with my past qualifications, over 100 trial placements, 30 or so first place finishes, finished 3 total field champions, bred...

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Another time Neil where you say something was said, but NEVER was. I did NOT say the best AA Brit couldn't compete in GSP gun dog stakes!!! What I am saying is that 95% of what I have seen in Brit all age stakes and yes, hour all age championships, are far from all age dogs. I am also not saying tha...

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Just STOP that logic thing jetjockey won't work. Neil and Ezzy, An all age dog is an all age dog!! There is NO Brit all age, no GSP all age, and I'm not saying that brits or GSPs have to run like pointers, nor am I saying they should just run and not hunt. More reading into something a poster says a...

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You're probably right Neil, judging hundreds and hundreds of both breeds doesn't give me a right to an opinion. Not sure where I need to "get out" to see these dogs. I've judged and ridden Brit hour all age championships, judged and ridden many many brit all age stakes, run all age shorthairs, judge...

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Neil, what about the need for a split in the Brittany? The beauty of the GSP is that we acknowledge the split. We don't take show dogs, run them with a bunch of other "no goers" and call them all age dogs. A show dog might finish as a field champion in shorthairs if run enough. 99% have no shot in b...

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The best advice you've been given is to find a person who hunts the heck out of his dogs on the game you plan to hunt in the country you plan to hunt and buy the pup you like best from that litter. Where NAVHDA lines, true NAVHDA lines, are proven in the testing arena, that means a hair more than an...

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Simple answer, call Rabidou, Lithgow, or Schaitel. All of them will know if Stevie is in the HOF.

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Bounty, just come to Texas. I have them in my yard nearly every night. Let me correct that, HAD them. Called for 4 nights, killed 3, a Tom, a coon, and a possum. Now, I don't have them. This all in a neighborhood with only a few homes. However, I have had so many coyote encounters I can't count. I'v...

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I judged Jim at Ardmore and a couple of other places. He could run, like his grandpa, but where he went very BIG he didn't have much handle. Heck I like a little outa control so I liked him.

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Now Neil, you know that the best place to find pups are products of field trial dog breedings. NFC, AFC, FC, NASD, etc. etc. means a heck of a lot more than "well old Bill says his dawg is the best huntin' dog in these here parts" However, the true proving ground is a combination, a dog that has the...

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Yeah Ray, but what do you know!!!? Rich, I have to agree with you to some extent. On one hand, if you are a breeder who has consistenly bred "winning" dogs, whether show or field trial, wants to make sure your dogs are put in the hands of people who will do with them what you want done, then you hav...

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I would say you've hit one of the major problems with field trialing and the supposed attempt to replicate bird hunting. Typically the bird planter is the person who is standing around doing nothing. The person who happens to be at a trial, maybe their first. They get stuck on a horse, they don't ri...

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Whoadog, I am pretty sure I didn't mention you at all. I don't know you so I am in no way telling you your business. Honestly, don't care. I was giving my own advice and offering advice based on what CAN or MIGHT happen based on actual experience of my own. Your last post is exactly why I no longer ...

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I never post anymore due mainly to questions like these that never get a definitive answer. Every single one of us, if we've trained more than two dogs has done something stupid that retarded a dog's development. Too many pigeons at any time can cause flagging. We've all done stupid things that had ...

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Huge congratulations Brooks. What a great accomplishment. Such a tremendous dog!! Congrats to Keith and Robbi and to the Messers also with another Chloe pup doing so well.

Also, good to see Allie getting a chance. Love to see those Hud pups and grandpups doing so well.

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I bought the L right before pheasant hunting in KS this year. Hunted three days in 10 degrees, had no problems at all with the gun. Very light!! For the price it's great.

trueblu · Re: Quail Championship / Ardmore OK Amateur Shooting Dog starts Saturday 7:30am

Amateur Shooting Dog starts Saturday 7:30am

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For reliability Sig Sauer and Glock are tough to beat. I own a full sized P250 and a mini-Redwood P938. Although the P938 is awfully small for large hands, it is perfect for concealed carry. Rugers, particularly the cheaper ones, tend to heat up badly if you shoot a lot of rounds through them. Both ...

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I can, with total confidence, recommend Ray Dohse at Eshod Farms in Wrightsville, GA. I have never seen anyone better at breaking dogs that are dead broke and who keep their style. He's probably 5 hours away from you.

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Just to clarify a couple points... Meller, Greif is the line-old "Greif" was Greif v. Hundsheimerkogel imported from Austria in the 50's. With dogs such as Yunga, Karin, Freida, Berta, etc. all Greif and the beginnings of the line in the US in California. Dang, Ultra, a son of Prima Banane and Beier...

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'Course Elhew then you get the same old argument, "well, you only beat 11 other dogs, big deal". There's always someone to throw water on the fire. Still, nowadays, the economy has slowed many folks trialing down, caused them to have to work longer hours, make less money/profits, etc. Where it has a...

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I have a couple of points/opinions. If you consider the specific dogs and handlers who will qualify, only about three handlers have multiple dogs that would qualify at this point-Hongo, Gulledge, Brath. Each of them is from 6 to 11 hours away. What about the others who are 20 hours away? Where the g...

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Where there are successes to allowing/training a pointing dog to also flush, I would bet there are 10 failures to 1 success, where the dog stops pointing and turns to busting birds and creates a problem that has to be fixed. I guess I wonder why one wouldn't just buy a flushing dog. Personal prefere...

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Hate to say, but you can easily get a thousand answers, but it depends on who the trainer is, what you are trying to accomplish with the dog, where any dog is in its training and experience, etc. With a dog that age, most likely the dog will take 3 weeks or so to begin to feel safe in the kennel, st...

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There are many steps to the breaking process, putting 'em on wild birds as pups to learn to handle at that age. Often the birds will teach the dog and he will stop or at least slow his chasing as he can't catch a wild bird. Then, it's whoa breaking, then yard breaking on pigeons, then to the field w...

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it depends on how much you like the Greif lines and how close and how TRUE Greif the dogs you own are. Don't be fooled into thinking that Billy was a Greif dog or that many who claim Greif really know how much TRUE Greif is in their lines. I know 2 of the 3 breeders, Rose and Richardson, and I know ...

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I haven't posted in a long long time but this one got me a little. A pointing dog is not about control. Puppies do not need to be in total control. Putting obedience, WHOA, breaking dogs, etc. at 6 months is flat too early. Other obedience work is fine at this point, HERE, KENNEL. If the dog is poin...

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If you truly want to be active with the dog's training and you want to learn to train dogs, there is no one better than Ronnie Sale at Freeflight in Jonesboro. 254-463-9000. Ronnie will take the time to teach you and the dog and will help keep you from making the typical mistakes that can really hur...

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Elhew, didn't attend a thing this year 'cept for the Quail. I was making a point, that seems to have been lost. Be assured, I have gone for 13 years nearly non-stop. I have traveled a zillion miles, judged over 100 stakes, blah blah blah. Not the point. Point is and stay with me here...it is impossi...

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I just can't believe you called him Mr. Messer!!!!!

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Ranger, I watched all of the dogs you have names run, I owned a blue hen female, direct daughter of Slick, owned several Clown double grandget and personally didn't like any of them. Jerry's right, Clown threw little style, lots of hardheaded birddog that could be difficult to train. Slick was one o...

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Call John Rabidou. No one knows more about bloodlines than John. Hate to give too man accolades, but he truly is a wealth of knowledge of Rusty and most other quality lines. If you want something that will go and blow I'd not suggest Hustler lines but like Rusty, those dogs are so watered down at th...

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ACooper, I think it goes back to the "there's only so much time" in the day, in the year, so many days of vacation, etc. The greatest percentage of us have jobs, aren't independently wealthy, have to pick and choose what we attend. With Eureka, Booneville, The Quail, Sharptail, Chukar, Region 5, Reg...

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James isn't a pain, well yeah he is but so am I. However, hate to tell you, other than you nitpicking his words, he IS right. Those who know the dogs that are national caliber know what shows up generally at Booneville versus some small region that is more of a weekend trial in general quality. I wo...

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I would hate to pretend to know exactly what Mr. Smith meant, but I did get to spend some time with him in Edmond when I was a kid, we bought two brits from him around the time electricity was invented. Mr. Smith was not a big fan of early formal training. Where it was said that they let the dogs ro...

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I agree completely, wings and scents are equally useless. Some compound the issue by dragging them on the ground, so then we have a dog that ground tracks and bumps birds. May as well go whole hog I guess!!

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From my experience, you will end up boring her to death is short order at that rate. I would pull her off birds, keep running her, letting her learn to range, be independent, be bold, explore. She will end up being a very short ranging dog if you're not careful as she will soon begin to relate you t...

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I always fed Pigeon Gold or scratch. Switched to Layena and found I had to stop feeding it as they were having too many babies.

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As long as you want a dog with tons of desire, wheels, stamina, style, and sense then you made a great decision. I've judged their dogs a few times and was very impressed.

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downside to beginning retrieving work with live birds is that they are warm, soft, and they tend to move around in their mouth. This can easily cause chomping. I agree with several above, begin with dummies, work to frozen quail, and only use the same frozen quail a few times, they get mushy and nas...

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Not part of your question, but have you been shooting around the dog while he eats, but not shooting while he is in full chase of birds? If so, I wouldn't even consider taking a gun on a bird hunt at this point, PLUS the dog is awfully young to be doing much but beginning to shoot around him. At thi...

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Since you have a GSP, I would highly suggest John Rabidou, Uodibar Kennels in Hondo, TX, or Ronnie Sale, Freeflight Kennels in Jonesboro, TX.

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