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SetterNut

Will the Wolter's stuff work, yes. Is it anywhere near the best method to train a birdog, IMO no.

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The amount of time you spend training a dog depends on the dog and your consistancy in training. I like to take mine out a couple times a week in the field. Many people take the dogs out more, but most actually do less. The more you can get out with the dog the better. But its not like this is somet...

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I spend as much time as possible bird hunting with the dogs, some training, and a trial once or twice a years. But my wife and I play a lot of golf together, and both play pretty well. My wife is likely the most consistent golfer of the two of us, I am a little of a spray hitter :) For years (until ...

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I highly recommend "Training with Mo" it is a much better method of training IMO than Wolters book.

A wing on a string is not substitute for birds. There is actually no substitute for birds.

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they may not be as good as a X, might not been as keen as Y, but they get the job for me pretty good. That is well put. All breeds have thier strengths and weaknesses. Thats why there are so many breeds, we don't all need or want the same thing. Some like the flushers / retievers, some want a point...

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BigShooter wrote:Lots of trainers don't like working with dogs already conditioned by invisible barrier e-control systems.

Why would that be?

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Steve, rumor has it that chestnut dog is one of those once-in-a-lifetime dogs. Any truth to that? I like Ace a lot. But I don't know that he is a once in a lifetime dog, he has some faults. Indy my new pup in the pictures above, has a good chance to be better, at least he is farther along at a youn...

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I have had both the in ground wire and the wireless systems. The Wireless is much better in my opinion. My 3 year old setter learned that if he ran and jumped over the place where the wire was at a spot close to atrampoline he could get out without much of a shock. You should have seen his reaction ...

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I have had setters since I was a kid. I have had Irish, Gordon, Red, and now 2 ES (Llewellin's) Setters have a style and class to them that I have always loved. The sight you get when you come over a hill and see that feathered tail sticking up out of the cover with them standing like a painting on ...

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Looks like you have got one with the "right stuff".
I have 2 Llewellin now with my youngest just turning 11 months old.

You have a lot of fun times in your future

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A remote launcher allows you to train properly. If the dog moves on point, and a young dog will, you need to be able to get the bird in the air as soon as they move. That way you don't end up with a creeper. They soon learn that if they move the bird is going to fly. I have a couple of the LCS launc...

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I have never used a 28ga. They look like nice guns. But for day to day hunting a 20ga is tough to beat. All I use now is a 20ga for upland bird hunting.

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The antenna is a good bet. I don't have any problems with mine well past that range.

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Congrats.
Keep putting him in birds, its only going to get better....

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I sure don't think most dogs hunt with fear. I know that mine don't. I used and e-collar during training, and I have it one most of the time when hunting. But I don't think I used it more than one once all last season. And that was a light nick to stop him from chasing a pheasant that I missed. You ...

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I have a couple of LCS launchers. They are less expensive than some of the other brands, but I have had very good results with them. They have plenty of range for the training grounds I run on. I have one of these too, and I'm not as impressed. The receiver seems finicky on whether it wants to rele...

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You have grass actually growing in your yard

The thundering herd keep plenty of bare dirt in my yard. The corners around the house look like the banked corners of a motocross track.

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TT pro 100 from me as well. I really like it.

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If you plant birds close to where you are walking, I suspect the dog will learn that the bird are close to you.

But why is it you want the dog to hunt close?

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I have a couple of LCS launchers. They are less expensive than some of the other brands, but I have had very good results with them.
They have plenty of range for the training grounds I run on.

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Don
I really like your pics. Especially your two setters, tons of my kind of style

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I would say one that is overlooked is the ability to pick out a superior dog / pup. It just makes everything so much easier down the road.

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I can see some benifits of the wire cone. I have had some pen raised quail that would not flush very easy. The dang things would just run around or get under the grass. However the use of the beeper is not something that I would do. I don't see it as being any different than using a whoa command to ...

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Congrats. Thats great to have some success early.
My first trial with my now 3 yo setter was a train wreck

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Most of the dogs I have had in the past I have tought sit pretty early, and did not have a problem.
But I think it is better to get the stand / whoa done first.

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I use Frontline on both of my dogs. It kills the ticks after they bite. But I really want something that repels them. The dogs are bringing ticks into the house after I take them for a run or train. My wife hates the tick collars. The dang ticks are really bad this spring. Was thinking about Advanti...

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My first pair of pronghorn did great. But the last 3 pair have not lasted a full season. If Cabela's doesn't take this pair back again, ( took them back 3 time and they replace them with a new pair) I am going with something new.

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Sorry for your loss. I went through that last fall, and words don't really seem to make it better, only time.

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I am looking forward to it.

Have some work to do before it gets here. Pup to get steadied up a little more, and get my shooting back to normal.
I shot very poorly for me last season.

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I have had all kinds of dogs Gordon, English, Irish, Red

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Nice looking Llew pup

I got a new one last summer, always a lot of fun getting a new pup.

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Cold wet weather can be really dangerous. My hunting partner had a close call two years ago with his dog. It was a rain snow mix, and the wind started to blow some. Right at 32F. His dog got hypothermic. It was pretty scary. Where his dogs do better than mine in the heat with the shorter coat, my se...

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A couple of pics for my guys from this weekend. Ace is 3 and a pretty old hand at training. He gets pretty sticky when we are training. http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad191/setternut/April2012_3.jpg Indy is now 9 months, and has not been on pigeons much. http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad191/...

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I have always considered a broke dog one that is steady until released. That release can be a tap or verbal.

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Do the gun exposure correctly first. Let him chase the bird and while he is in full chase mode at a distance fire a blank gun on something similar while he is at a distance and still chasing. Watch to see if he reacts (stops, looks around ....). If he reacts, stop shooting and let him chase some wit...

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I plan to stick a couple turkeys this spring with my bow..
We have a lot of them around here any more.

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I started at 8 weeks and what I did my with my pup is take a pigeon, hold the wings together, tease her up with it a little bit, and just made sure I held it away from her when it flew. Next time put one in one of those harnesses and a tether and let her play with it, third time, I locked the pigeo...

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I am so sorry for you. When I read you post my heart just sank.

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I guess I tend to like to run my dogs more than that to keep them in shape. During this past hunting season I hunted 13 out of 14 days in one stretch. In about a 3-4 hour hunt each day they would go 20 + miles depending on the cover we were hunting. When they are in good shape that is not too much f...

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The training process for a dog is a series of steps. One thing that is not always obvious is that much of the training is not about pointing birds. The dogs will decent breeding and a little age / experience will point. What you spend most of your training time on is things other than pointing. The ...

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Mearns have been the most fun for me. They live in open country and hold really tight and are Very rare. Bill Some day I am going to have to give Mearns a try. Its really a lot of fun to put your dog on different types of birds...I I have shot BW quail, pheasants and Prairie Chicken over my setters...

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Goldenpatch
How old is your pup? Some of this can just be age and bird exposure.
If you have spooky wild birds to work the pup on you are lucky, there is nothing better for a pup to learn on.

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They tend to get a bit more fired up on quail.

Because pen raised quail often do not fly real strong, you have a lot more risk of a bird being caught,
A cc is a good way to expose a dog that still chases to quail. Wild quail would be best, but if you don't have them around, its not much help.

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I have 2 Llewellin setters. I have had Irish, Gordon and Red setters as well. I like the 2 Llewellins I have now as well or better than any dogs I have had for hunting. Not having had an English Setter I can't really say if there the much difference between them. But I will say that these two are go...

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That was a nice hunt.

What country were you hunting in?

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That was spectacular!

Some day I am going to have to hunt off horseback.

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I have never had or seen a dog get hung up by a collar. I suppose it could happen. But getting lost is much more likely to happen.

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Steve, Willie weighed 34.5 2 weeks ago. I would imagine he has gained a couple in the last couple weeks. I think the camera makes him look a little bigger than he is. He is a nice looking pup. Did you get a chance to hunt him this past season. I got Indy out the last half of the season here. He did...

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Angus
How much does Willie weight? My pup Indy is 8 months old too. Indy is about 37 pounds.
In those pictures Willie looks a little bigger, but it may be that he has a heavier coat.

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Thats for taking care of business over there, and I hope you and the guys and gals all get back soon. I do a fair amount of bird hunting but over pointing dogs, so my shots may be at a little closer range on average than with a flushing dog. But I really like a 20ga. It will handle pheasants easily,...

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