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It can in no way be good to feed to carnivores. Dogs are not omnivores. It's as simple as 2+2=4. Another time you are wrong. Back in time you were probably right though. Ezzy Back in time? Dogs have not evolved into omnivores. Evolution takes millions of years. We haven't evolved since the Paleolit...

When we go huckleberry picking my wolfdog eats nearly as many off the bush as we pick. Dogs are not omnivores. It's as simple as 2+2=4. :?: :?: :?: wouldn't that make your dog an omnivore??? No, the actual amount he/wild canines eat isn't significant enough to be considered omnivores. He stops eati...

It's not a matter of my way is the right way. That's not my point. My way is what works best for my dogs. I wouldn't ask anyone to make the financial sacrifices my GF and I make to feed our dogs the way we do. My dogs health is way more important than any fancy shotguns or shiny truck. My point is t...

He may or may not be a crackpot but what he writes about corn is truth. Corn is not healthy. No if, ands or buts about it. Watch the documentary King Corn http://www.kingcorn.net/ Lectins in corn are toxic. Staple or not it is not good dog food. It's not good cattle food. It's not good pig food. It'...

Wonder why practically every animal in the world eats corn when its available? Maybe they need to be taught this new dietary procedure and forget what we all have learned over the years in our studies and what nature has provided for them. Maybe that is why it is too wet to harvest the corn this ye...

Those guys aren't endurance athletes. Bird dogs are asked to run for very long periods. Hours on end even. Just like endurance sleddogs. Not the sprinters. There is preference and there is performance. Just because it is how you have always done it doesn't make optimal. For years coaches told athlet...

My dogs perform better when they have a little fat on them. They hunt harder, longer, and find more birds when they have enough fat to barely see their ribs. How long does the glycogen in their muscles last, and how long does it take to replenish it? IMO, a healthy well conditioned dogs needs fat t...

Fat storage is nothing more than stored energy. Thats true whether you are awake or asleep. And is there to use in either case also. Ezzy In order to to access it the body needs to be in ketosis. The body can not go into ketosis if there is an ample supply of carbohydrates aka glycogen. So unless t...

Fat storage is nothing more than stored energy. Thats true whether you are awake or asleep. And is there to use in either case also. Ezzy In order to to access it the body needs to be in ketosis. The body can not go into ketosis if there is an ample supply of carbohydrates aka glycogen. So unless t...

Corn contains lectins which block the release of leptins which causes overeating which causes the development of triglycerides which causes obesity which causes disease is scientific fact! Along with all of the other facts in that paper. doesnt this dog need a little of that right now?? i mean, he ...

I use lard rather than the vegetable oils. Works well for my pointers. They are hard keepers and it keeps weight on them. I've heard cottage cheese will work well too but the lard is cheaper. It's infinitely healthier too. As long as you aren't using the shelf stable lard thats hydrogenated. That's...

These are not opinions. They are studied, scientific facts. Another fact is that it can't be good to feed grains to carnivores. :roll: How do people and dogs live longer? Life is easier. Better living conditions, hygiene and medical intervention. There is more disease and obesity though. Can't argue...

I've never had a problem with the dogs losing excessive weight from working as long as you feed a good quality feed with corn as one of the top ingredients. There is no such thing as good quality corn! Those are three words that should never go together Ever heard of lectins? How about leptins? htt...

"One man's junk is another man's jewel."
That doesn't change the fact that it's junk! :roll:

I was wondering how the sardines help? before I give them a try Protein and FAT! It's the primary energy source for canines. They only burn glycogen during their glycolytic phase, first 2-3min. of exercise. After that it is all fat. Fat has more than twice the available energy of any sugar. In term...

I have 9 dogs right now. 5 of which are sold, 4 of which I hope my female will be weaning next week and the other I am waiting to talk to a guy about picking up tonight, so I can't complain about my wife either. She doesn't hunt much but I did get her to start shooting trap and she has her own shot...

tommyboy72 wrote:Get rid of the lady and take the dog.

LOL! Ah, she's a good one she just needs some re-training too. I just have to wear her down a bit. I've convinced her to take the Hunter's Safety course. A few times out hunting and she'll get it.

gonehuntin' wrote:Absolutely. You can force train them at any age. She is prime right now. The older the dogs get, the more they resent it.

Thanks!

Sorry, I know I said I would go back to lurking but I don't know where else to ask this question. I took a chocolate lab pup for a walk today at our local shelter. The shelter says she is 1-1.5 yrs. I think she is more around 9 mon. She is very much a puppy still. She is quite untrained, no leash ma...

How about this one?
http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/

I'll go back to lurking :roll:

"there are those that can hunt theirs all day long without a snack" That's great! "how about 4 dogs all day- seems an awfull lot of snacks to be packing along" I've packed that many snacks along skiing. My friends often forget to. Don't want to cut a great day short or have to carry a bonking dog o...

"there are those that can hunt theirs all day long without a snack" That's great! "how about 4 dogs all day- seems an awfull lot of snacks to be packing along" I've packed that many snacks along skiing. My friends often forget to. Don't want to cut a great day short or have to carry a bonking dog ou...

Hunting for my dog isn't very tough due to his general level of conditioning from backcountry skiing in winter and spring to mtn.biking all summer. Backcountry skiing requires snacking. I get beef and pork trim from the restaurant my GF works for and chicken skins from the butcher. I generally feed ...

FWIW- Something I learned from a vet who specializes in K9 nutrition (most specifically for sleddogs) is and I quote "If there is anything other than meat or meat fat in the first 3 ingredients move on. Dogs are carnivores, not omnivores." Ingredients: Chicken Meal, Brewers Rice, Corn, Brown Rice, ...

FWIW- Something I learned from a vet who specializes in K9 nutrition (most specifically for sleddogs) is and I quote "If there is anything other than meat or meat fat in the first 3 ingredients move on. Dogs are carnivores, not omnivores." Ingredients: Chicken Meal, Brewers Rice, Corn, Brown Rice, A...

Friday I was able to hook up with a buddy and his Visla for a little grouse hunting. Between the 2 dogs they flushed over 14 birds and we each got our limit http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee127/splittherapy/SDC10483.jpg Saturday Wilson flushed a lot of birds. I only scored 3, 1 shy of the limit....

O.K. So as a dog goes through their energy process there is glycogenic phase (first 2-3min of activity) and the oxygenic phase (after 3min.). What you are saying is triglyserides are a better energy source than dietary fat? and that they catabolize muscle for energy and that is also more efficient t...

ezzy333 wrote:Stamina has a lot more to do with conditioning than what they are eating. Ezzy

Of course if there isn't enough fuel in the tank the engine won't keep running. Or an inefficient fuel source, like say carbohydrates instead of fat, the get and go will got up and went.

Hattrick wrote:I see my female tires when quicker than her litter mate brother does when training, i`m guessing this be true when hunting as well.

Is she a good eater? Is she getting enough calories? Have you tried giving here some extra fat in her food or a bit of tallow before training?

I am surprised that your dog won't tolerate the kibble as that is what they feed a lot of wolves almost exclusively and they do well on it just like any dog. Several small zoos around here feed kibble with the only meat being an occasional roadkill deer they can get hold of. Hope it all works out f...

Howdy All, This is only my second post. I'm a raw feeder. I have a wolfdog and an Inuit Dog. My wolfdog (WD) tolerates only minimal EVO kibble and no cooked food at all so I have no choice but to feed raw. I have only fed my WD rabbit on one occasion and my Inuit never. I have to ask if the regular ...

Howdy All, I'm Chris, I'm 42, I live in Teton Valley, Idaho, I just got re-started bird hunting last season when my Chinook X Alaskan Husky/Wolf dog decided he wanted to be a bird hunting dog. Last season we scored on 35 forest grouse mostly Ruffeds with a few Duskies in there. Wilson pretty much le...